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[2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:00 pm

Bayern Munich will win
5
83%
It will end in a draw
0
No votes
VfL Wolfsburg will win
1
17%
 
Total votes : 6

Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Rauntšik » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:46 pm

The dream is to see a counter-attack.
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby pyrasur » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:49 pm

Bernat, Thiago, and maybe Müller have underwhelmed this match so far for me. Martinez needs to come in, and I'd consider pulling Thiago for Lewandowski. At least Götze has been up for this match.
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby ottackon » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:50 pm

Top : Gotze, Alonso, Costa
Flop : Bernat, Thiago, Muller
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby bastos80 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:51 pm

Bernat has been beyond crap.
Bring in Lewandowski and Martinez
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Tedesco » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:51 pm

Bernat and Thiago completely terrible so far. Müller completely shut off by Wolfsburg defense.

Looks bad. I don't see us drawing much less winning this.
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby quaazi » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:52 pm

Wolfsburg is putting in an absolute gargantuan shift both going forwards and at the back. Their system of players playing with the back to goal and then giving backpasses to forward-facing players is causing real problems for our defense, as Wolfsburg have players powering forward with pace and the passers able to find them. What we're really lacking - defensively - is the system of gegenpressing to nullify those backpasses so that they don't have the opportunity to pick out runners like they're doing right now. Easier said than done, of course.

Our attack is going decently enough, with the conceit that we're creating NO clear chances, merely good ones. Someone needs to tell Müller to get his head out of his ass, because he really is contributing almost nothing right now. Costa is his usual electrifying self and Götze seems to have remembered that dribbling is allowed in football - dude's doing his best Zidane impression, his ball control is absolutely sublime. Keep it up, kid.
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby quaazi » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:53 pm

I honestly don't see what people think Thiago has done so poorly. His passing is crisp and quick and his penchant for bringing the ball up through midfield is allowing us to create direct routes of attack both in the middle and on the flanks. Yes, he's missing his tackles in defense, but going forwards he is doing quite well.
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MiaSanFCB » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:54 pm

What a horrible first half ffs :-?
Bring Lewandowski for Thiago and Martínez for Bernat now
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby #12 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:55 pm

Say what you want: every time we face half-decent opposition with Guardiola it's enough to be organized on defense to take away a three pointer for sure... 0-1 is like Christmas and Easter on the same day for us, they're better in every aspect... Maybe people will finally stop worshipping the guy who NEVER finds ANY solutions against the same opposition - game looks exactly like 8 Months ago... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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[2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:56 pm

Don't think Gotze should be playing out wide maybe him and Muller should swap. It's too easy for Wolfsburg to double team Gotze out wide than it would be for Muller. I would play Gotze as the false 9 so he can utilize his ball control skills centrally.

Or just sub in Lewa and play an attacking trident with those three
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby quaazi » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:56 pm

The real question is why Xabi Alonso is so reluctant to play diagonals all of a sudden. :-k
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:59 pm

quaazi wrote:The real question is why Xabi Alonso is so reluctant to play diagonals all of a sudden. :-k


I get the feeling Wolfsburg are marking Costa tight out wide to nullify the diagnosis balls
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby pyrasur » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:59 pm

Thiago's not doing horribly. I think it's just one game where he hasn't been up to his usual par. The way Götze played the first half, if we need to make a change I think he's the one more likely to contribute to a breakthrough.

Lack of clinical finishing is killing us. Like you said we fashioned good chances, and it's a shame so far that the one's we created either Müller shanked, Benaglio made a good but expected save against Costa, and Vidal was almost the right placement.
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:05 pm

Javi so soon??? :$ I don't like it. A short term win could derail our whole season if he worsens his injury...
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Re: [2015-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby pyrasur » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:09 pm

WAS THAT A COUNTERATTACK I JUST SAW?!?!? LEWA absolutely INSPIRED substitution
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