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[2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:30 pm

Bayern Munich will win
27
87%
It will end in a draw
2
6%
VfL Wolfsburg will win
2
6%
 
Total votes : 31

Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:13 pm

jaybayern wrote:why so bernat starting soo many game....he hasnt stood out to me...he can prove me wrong though i believe he should not start

Maybe because he comes from Spain! Jokes apart... I believe that when most of the players return he will be benched or else he will be this season's Rafinha...
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby AllensRoten » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:27 pm

Don't understand the comparisons between Bernat and Rafinha. Bernat's already of a higher quality than Rafinha at his young age. He's actually a fast runner, good passer, even better dribbler, decent crosser, good shooter and can defend. Aside from a good crosser and the occasional back pass to Boateng, Rafinha offers absolutely nothing that makes him an outstanding player. Sometimes I think Pep just placed him there because he's brazilian like Dani Alves.
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby JANCKER » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:42 pm

AllensRoten wrote:Don't understand the comparisons between Bernat and Rafinha. Bernat's already of a higher quality than Rafinha at his young age. He's actually a fast runner, good passer, even better dribbler, decent crosser, good shooter and can defend. Aside from a good crosser and the occasional back pass to Boateng, Rafinha offers absolutely nothing that makes him an outstanding player. Sometimes I think Pep just placed him there because he's brazilian like Dani Alves.


I agree about Bernat, he's got potential, he can turn out to be a great deal, seems like a balanced player(smart defensively as he is offensively), he is only 21, don't rush with conclusions. We need those 'double edged' players for a 3-4-3.
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:30 pm

You guys are right that Bernat has not done anything exceptional so far, but keep in mind how many injuries we have. If he didn't even play when we had injuries, then why on earth would we have bought him?
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Ottomeister13 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:05 am

AllensRoten wrote:Don't understand the comparisons between Bernat and Rafinha. Bernat's already of a higher quality than Rafinha at his young age. He's actually a fast runner, good passer, even better dribbler, decent crosser, good shooter and can defend. Aside from a good crosser and the occasional back pass to Boateng, Rafinha offers absolutely nothing that makes him an outstanding player. Sometimes I think Pep just placed him there because he's brazilian like Dani Alves.


I think you have seen a complete different Bernat ;)
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby KSBesa » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:32 am

As a squad player he's a good signing, but I don't think he should be starting when everyone's fit and I'll destroy something if I see a 3-4-3 tomorrow and Pep plays Alaba as a "sweeper".
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby AllensRoten » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:57 am

Ottomeister13 wrote:
AllensRoten wrote:Don't understand the comparisons between Bernat and Rafinha. Bernat's already of a higher quality than Rafinha at his young age. He's actually a fast runner, good passer, even better dribbler, decent crosser, good shooter and can defend. Aside from a good crosser and the occasional back pass to Boateng, Rafinha offers absolutely nothing that makes him an outstanding player. Sometimes I think Pep just placed him there because he's brazilian like Dani Alves.


I think you have seen a complete different Bernat ;)

http://youtu.be/Ns9ynOt37WM

this is the Bernat I'm looking at
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby runaway » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:20 am

I find these heavy criticisms on Bernat a bit harsh. He's a new player who is adjusting to a new system and environment. Give the guy some time. Some are even slightly racist. What he has shown is certainly better than Contento for me.

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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Badger » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:45 am

runaway wrote:I find these heavy criticisms on Bernat a bit harsh. He's a new player who is adjusting to a new system and environment. Give the guy some time. Some are even slightly racist. What he has shown is certainly better than Contento for me.

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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Ottomeister13 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:46 am

Well.. for instance he is not fast but slow and second of all he almost never passes his opponent :S That's what i have seen from the pre season and i've seen all the games ;) Yeah he had some moments ofcourse, but most were just bad so far and to play him at Alaba's spot is just....
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby YlonenXabi » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:03 am

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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MUTU » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:06 am

I would play this way:

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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:07 am

YlonenXabi wrote:BILD

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That's a very odd lineup. Lahm at the back is much nicer than seeing Alaba though.

I find it hard to believe Gaudino will start over Rode. If Rode starts it'll be a good lineup based on available players. However, I thought Pep said Robben will start?
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:08 am

MUTU wrote:I would play this way:


I don't like that right side. :?
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Re: [2014-08-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MUTU » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:09 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:I find it hard to believe Gaudino will start over Rode.

Ah yes, Rode! Thanks for reminding me. My updated preferred lineup:

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