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[2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:30 pm

Bayern Munich will win
5
63%
It will end in a draw
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SC Freiburg will win
3
38%
 
Total votes : 8

Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby America USA » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:58 pm

^Playing Javi in midfield, at this point in time, ahead of Rudy is a crime. No way should Rudy be dropped for Martinez as a defensive midfielder.
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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby IsiahRashad » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:35 pm

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We're going to have a backup striker in the first team ?
Is this real life ?





The thing that i love about this guy is that his left foot is the strong one.
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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:38 pm

Came to post the same...


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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:40 pm

What about the other guy ? Forgot his name

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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby America USA » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:45 pm

ramsej84 wrote:What about the other guy ? Forgot his name

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Wintzheimer? Yeah I too would like it if he can step up as the CF at Bayern and be Robert’s deputy. Mainly because he’s German and would be an asset to the National team.
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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:50 pm

America USA wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:What about the other guy ? Forgot his name

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Wintzheimer? Yeah I too would like it if he can step up as the CF at Bayern and be Robert’s deputy. Mainly because he’s German and would be an asset to the National team.
Him as well but (now I remembered his name) I was referring to Evina

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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby bastos80 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:55 pm

America USA wrote:^Playing Javi in midfield, at this point in time, ahead of Rudy is a crime. No way should Rudy be dropped for Martinez as a defensive midfielder.



If Jupp intends to play Javi in midfield he has to play there to get back into.
Thiago is set and I don't think Thiago+Rudy will happen...
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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby FCB12Forever » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:16 pm

FYI Wintzheimer scored for FCB II earlier this day but FCBII lost 1:3.

He scored 2 goals in Germany U19's destruction of NI U19 in 3 minutes' stoppage time.
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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby bastos80 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:36 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
America USA wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:What about the other guy ? Forgot his name

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Him as well but (now I remembered his name) I was referring to Evina

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He's probably too young.
This one's 23 already.
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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby Manchu » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:49 am

IsiahRashad wrote: Can't see tweet? Click here!

We're going to have a backup striker in the first team ?
Is this real life ?





The thing that i love about this guy is that his left foot is the strong one.

Well, he scored and assisted pretty regularly in the 3.Liga(12 goals and 8 assists in 2681 minutes of play, and this was playing with another striker). Most people would react to this by saying "but it's the 3.Liga, so we really can't draw any conclusions." However, if you're interested in the goalimpact perspective(and, notably, league comparison is one of the things goalimpact does well, as is shown by the Holstein Kiel story in the 2.Bundesliga this year), then, except for a couple very good teams at the top, 3.Liga isn't necessarily worse in playing quality than Serie A or Ligue 1:
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What all of this says about Wriedt's talent level is unclear because I haven't seen his graph. However, if he was actually one of the best players on VfL Osnabrück, it's very possible that he has a goalimpact of ~135 or even ~140, which would definitely make him good enough to start in the Bundesliga and good enough to be a backup for us(although not holding a candle to our best backup, Rafinha).
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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby Coman » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:41 am

bastos80 wrote:
America USA wrote:^Playing Javi in midfield, at this point in time, ahead of Rudy is a crime. No way should Rudy be dropped for Martinez as a defensive midfielder.



If Jupp intends to play Javi in midfield he has to play there to get back into.
Thiago is set and I don't think Thiago+Rudy will happen...


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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:29 am

Jupp! Jupp! Jupp! Jupp!

It's time :D
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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby DRvad14 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:39 am

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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby Roonzil » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:02 am

Going by Jupp's comments during the presser, he'll want to get a fixed team first, give that team momentum before making any rotational changes to 'rest' players.

So that definitely means the backline will be Alaba - Boa - Hummels - Kimmich (even though Rafinha has had weeks of rest, and Kimmich has played every single minute this season). In midfield Jupp said Javi needs time to adjust to midfield, not sure if he'll start him in his old/new position again. I think he might go for Rudy/Tolisso, or Rudy/Thiago. Up front I think we'll use Robben as a sub today (he was absolutely knackered...like, limping knackered, after the NT game), and we'll start with Coman/Lewy/Muller.

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Re: [2017-10-14] Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:33 am

Roonzil wrote:So that definitely means the backline will be Alaba - Boa - Hummels - Kimmich (even though Rafinha has had weeks of rest, and Kimmich has played every single minute this season).

I hope so. Those media vultures probably won't stop going on about it if Kimmich is benched for the first time in Jupp's first game. It could mess with his head even if it doesn't mean anything.
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