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[2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:00 pm

Bayern Munich will win
5
71%
It will end in a draw
0
No votes
Hertha BSC will win
2
29%
 
Total votes : 7

Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby SrLuisGuilherme » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:58 pm

Our right flank is invisible. We need to switch to a 4-2-3-1 as soon as our true wingers are ready and fit enough to start. Drop Alonso and play a two men midfield, please Carlo :(

And wow. What a goal from Franck. Incredible skills. Martínez a rock in defense. Only thing I think we need to improve is the attack from the RW
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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby Tdj » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:02 pm

Good game, the atmosphere here is amazing!

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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby ottackon » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:06 pm

pyrasur wrote:
ottackon wrote:I can't say I'm enjoying this match so far, it's like day and night in comparison to Dortmund's match yesterday.


Right now it looks like we depend on individuals, whereas Dortmund look like they attack as a team. But hopefully the team will gel at some point.

The worst is that we have no player for one-on-ones, given that Ribery has lost his speed with age.
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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:16 pm

We've seen more action in the first 2 minutes than the last half an hour of playing time. Time for Robben to come on?
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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby pyrasur » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:27 pm

God I'm so tired of Thiago moping around.
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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:28 pm

happy now guys?

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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby PunkCapitalist » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:30 pm

Nah. I still think we are playing boring football ;-/

We are winning thanks to individualities, not team-play. That won't be enough against a top side IMO.

I think the problem is Xabi occupying Thiago's space and Lahm being too cautious with posession and adding nothing in attack. Also Müller is not being productive enough.

I think we will have to go back to a 4231 with Müller behind Lewy and Thiago-Vidal MF.

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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:37 pm

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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:40 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:Nah. I still think we are playing boring football ;-/

We are winning thanks to individualities, not team-play. That won't be enough against a top side IMO.

I think the problem is Xabi occupying Thiago's space and Lahm being too cautious with posession and adding nothing in attack. Also Müller is not being productive enough.

I think we will have to go back to a 4231 with Müller behind Lewy and Thiago-Vidal MF.

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and what about #8?

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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby PunkCapitalist » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:41 pm

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PunkCapitalist wrote:Nah. I still think we are playing boring football ;-/

We are winning thanks to individualities, not team-play. That won't be enough against a top side IMO.

I think the problem is Xabi occupying Thiago's space and Lahm being too cautious with posession and adding nothing in attack. Also Müller is not being productive enough.

I think we will have to go back to a 4231 with Müller behind Lewy and Thiago-Vidal MF.

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Well, that's why I want the 433 to work, but it isn't working :-/

Müller is the problem.

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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby pyrasur » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:48 pm

Isn't that exactly the problem we tried to address against Atletico away last season? Took him out and we lost. Played him and he missed a penalty anyway. My conundrum is that I don't even know what to do with Müller since he seems incapable of contributing from the wing and playing him as another striker takes away one of the three central midfielders. I know he is vital to us, but fitting him in now seems a puzzle.
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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby PunkCapitalist » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:51 pm

pyrasur wrote:Isn't that exactly the problem we tried to address against Atletico away last season? Took him out and we lost. Played him and he missed a penalty anyway. My conundrum is that I don't even know what to do with Müller since he seems incapable of contributing from the wing and playing him as another striker takes away one of the three central midfielders. I know he is vital to us, but fitting him in now seems a puzzle.

Precisely. But Müller always plays. That's the law and should be respected.

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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby kod2600 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:55 pm

Good game. Perfect prediction over here. :D
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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby Coman » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:57 pm

The right flank was so much better with a real winger alongside Lahm (Robben).

I hope Ancelotti has not only a 4-3-3 in mind.

Because that's mean two of Müller, Ribéry, Robben and Costa on the bench every game
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Re: [2016-09-21] Bayern Munich vs Hertha BSC

Postby Achilles » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:58 pm

In September under new coach,in that awful pitch against a solid team we scored 3 but we should 5, they barely get a chance to Neuer(just 1) but "we don't play as a team" I have to say that sounds like bitter Pep fans, seriously @pyrasur you're saying this just in the THIRD! matchday at Bundesliga? Seriously? So far we have scored 26 goals conceded ONLY 1 in our 7 official games and your statement is "We are winning thanks to individualities" ??

Yeah against top teams our teamplay worked perfectly in the last three years, I might take the... individual way!

Sorry people but just in September to read these things it's too much for me.
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