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[2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:30 pm

Bayern Munich will win
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It will end in a draw
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19%
Bayer 04 Leverkusen will win
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13%
 
Total votes : 16

Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby quaazi » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:27 pm

MUTU wrote:At least Kroos had a valid reason as to why: in the semi-final shootout against Real Madrid, he had missed his penalty.

haha what the shit kind of a reason is that?
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby JANCKER » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:57 pm

The designated penalty taker for that game was subbed off(I'll let you guess who)... And I'm not making things up, I think it was Jupp himself admitting that. Bayern was just waiting for the final whistle, nobody saw a goal coming from a side that sucked all night...
Letting Robben take the penalty, who was missing chances in every important game that year is also an indicator of how many others were confident and willing to take a penalty that night, 'if you don't try you can't fail'. Well, at least he tried...
Kroos refusing to take a penalty grows more insecurity amongst others in the group and other chain events, but he was not the only one in that night in 'not being enough of a man'.
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby MUTU » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:29 pm

quaazi wrote:
MUTU wrote:At least Kroos had a valid reason as to why: in the semi-final shootout against Real Madrid, he had missed his penalty.

haha what the shit kind of a reason is that?

It's a more valid reason than "I just don't feel like".

Robben missed a penalty some time earlier too, and he then missed during the game. If you've missed an important penalty a short time earlier, of course it's going to have a psychological effect. I say it'd considerably reduce your chances of scoring. Unless of course you're Effenberg, but you can't expect everybody to be Effenberg.
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby YlonenXabi » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:34 pm

It's really unfair because

If you take the penalty and miss it, you'll be criticised because you shouldn't have taken it after missing in the previous games

If you refuse to shoot it because of that reason, you're a coward


And then there's Robben who had both in the same game :mrgreen:
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby quaazi » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:16 pm

If you take a penalty and miss it, you screw up. If you refuse to take it, then you are a coward. For me, one's a far better than the other.
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby MUTU » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:20 pm

quaazi wrote:If you take a penalty and miss it, you screw up. If you refuse to take it, then you are a coward. For me, one's a far better than the other.

Not questioning what is far better for you, but after the final Robben got more flak than Kroos.
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby quaazi » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:34 pm

Personally I was upset because he was selfish and took over a dozen shots (that were almost all blocked every time). The penalty served to amplify that, but eh.
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby tflags » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:45 pm

MUTU wrote:tflags: Out of this world match by Gustavo, yet none of his tackles were as Rode's, technique-wise.


If you think about it it is quite impressive that he knows exactly what he was doing. Looking at the video you'll see Rode runs back all guns blazing, tackles and starts running in one synchronous movement when in fact from amateurs to pros when you tackle you skip a beat to see where the ball goes and usually you follow up by distancing the tacklee with one leg or arm before moving (or butt in Gustavo's case.)

Let's see how he does today. I still think he needs to ride closer to Xabi than to Robben but then again that what exactly what solved the issue vs Leverkusen.
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby MUTU » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:58 pm

tflags wrote:Let's see how he does today. I still think he needs to ride closer to Xabi than to Robben but then again that what exactly what solved the issue vs Leverkusen.

And neither Xabi nor Robben are starting today alongside Rode. Too much shuffling, looking like a friendly, not exactly a good gauge for Rode I guess.
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby tflags » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:03 pm

Rode is sitting Robben for good, I'm calling it right now! :P
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby Ottomeister13 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:55 pm

I have respect for the shooters in the CL final 2012... no respect at all for the ones who didnt want to.. Then go be something else, but not a soccer player if you cant take the pressure tbh..
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby MillaMjau » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:47 pm

Lahm and Gomez were the first two penalty takers, then Kroos refused to take one [-X even though Müller was yelling at him to take it.
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby Firefox1234 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:21 pm

Why are people even thinking about that "day" again....:(
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby JANCKER » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:50 pm

Because you can learn from the past...
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Re: [2014-12-06] Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen

Postby MillaMjau » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:50 pm

And because it still hurts, dammit. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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