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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:38 pm

The bull's coach apparently admitted that it was not a penalty.

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby sherpthederp » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:51 pm

ramsej84 wrote:The bull's coach apparently admitted that it was not a penalty.

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It was pretty dirty from Werner but I find myself in tough spot criticizing it after Vidals flop vs Bremen last year. I looked the other way for Vidal last time, but then again Bremen were playing dirty as hell, while Schalke basically got screwed out of a point.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby JANCKER » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:15 am

I want wins in all the remaining games before winter break... it's not that hard.

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:19 am

ramsej84 wrote:As I said before the season even started, expect some strange decisions...


Has there been a single season in which you did NOT expect this, ramsej84?
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:21 am

Last season ... and actually there were some strange ones. I am not able to remember them but I am sure that we complained on some decisions

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby FCB general » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:53 am

MUTU wrote:We could afford to skip one. We also have the best man for the job of losing the league in Carlo Ancelotti. After all, he remains the last coach to fail to win with PSG.

Excuse me? Who's the Ligue 1 champion 2012/2013?

MUTU wrote:I'm finding myself supporting RB Leipzig. I am of the honest opinion that if RB Leipzig win the Bundesliga this season, it would help Bayern in the medium to long term. Just the fairytale of a newly-formed club winning the league will have all those Leicester ass-kissers crapping their pants, and it would improve the marketability of the league. What better way to debunk the "Bayern have no competition" or the "Bayern play on their own in the Bundesliga" arguments than having a team formed in 2009 win the league?

MUTU wrote:So, yes, competition is healthy.

Yes, competition is very necessary in the BuLi also to heal frustrations of many people in this forum. Germany deserves to have an excitement, but as we can see right now, BVB are not the one who are offering that but RB Leipzig and even Hertha and Hoffenheim.

I don't cheer for Leipzig to win the league, but I won't be too sad if Bayern after 4 years of an absolute domination ends up shorthanded. What I do want is that we bring a German coach who'll be a long-term solution.

But as long as a person such as Rummenigge is going to make selection, we can't expect good days. The today's SportBild headline just reminds how disgusting he is.

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby JANCKER » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:36 pm

To put differently, if you had to pick winning one of BuLi and CL? What would you pick? I'd pick the CL every time.
CL is what makes Bayern different from other German teams. If Bayern didn't have those CL trophies, the significance of BuLi titles would weight way less... like the French league titles perhaps.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby Dumbledore7 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:52 pm

JANCKER wrote:To put differently, if you had to pick winning one of BuLi and CL? What would you pick? I'd pick the CL every time.
CL is what makes Bayern different from other German teams. If Bayern didn't have those CL trophies, the significance of BuLi titles would weight way less... like the French league titles perhaps.


Bundesliga easily. CL trophies like Chelsea's or most of Real Madrid's are eww.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby JANCKER » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:59 pm

There's no eww CL trophy... wouldn't say no to any CL trophy. The old Bayern won two eww CL trophies(meaning no domestic trophy to go with) of the 3 in a row... and thanks to them we have this Bayern with great ambitions of today.

I bet you didn't start to follow Bayern because they won the league or because they didn't win anything...

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby SrLuisGuilherme » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:52 am

Champions League or league title? I don't know but I got the feeling Milan last decade had far more respect than both Juve and Inter by winning two UCL's while they weren't the big dogs in the league.
Anyway, we're some spoiled mofos. I'll only take three trebles in three years with Ancelotti here :P


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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby JANCKER » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:53 am

SrLuisGuilherme wrote:I got the feeling Milan last decade had far more respect than both Juve and Inter by winning two UCL's while they weren't the big dogs in the league.


Not only you...

I bet the players too would want the CL before the league. Hummels said that he'd would want to win the CL more than another WC.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:10 am

FCB general wrote:
MUTU wrote:We could afford to skip one. We also have the best man for the job of losing the league in Carlo Ancelotti. After all, he remains the last coach to fail to win with PSG.

Excuse me? Who's the Ligue 1 champion 2012/2013?

PSG. Who is the Ligue 1 champion 2011/12? Not PSG. Who was PSG coach? Has any other coach since 2011/12 not won the league with PSG?
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MUTU wrote:I'm finding myself supporting RB Leipzig. I am of the honest opinion that if RB Leipzig win the Bundesliga this season, it would help Bayern in the medium to long term. Just the fairytale of a newly-formed club winning the league will have all those Leicester ass-kissers crapping their pants, and it would improve the marketability of the league. What better way to debunk the "Bayern have no competition" or the "Bayern play on their own in the Bundesliga" arguments than having a team formed in 2009 win the league?

MUTU wrote:So, yes, competition is healthy.

Yes, competition is very necessary in the BuLi also to heal frustrations of many people in this forum. Germany deserves to have an excitement, but as we can see right now, BVB are not the one who are offering that but RB Leipzig and even Hertha and Hoffenheim.

I don't cheer for Leipzig to win the league, but I won't be too sad if Bayern after 4 years of an absolute domination ends up shorthanded. What I do want is that we bring a German coach who'll be a long-term solution.

But as long as a person such as Rummenigge is going to make selection, we can't expect good days. The today's SportBild headline just reminds how disgusting he is.

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Yes I definitely would not be sad if we win the league. Nor would I be celebrating if RB Leipzig wins it. But I wouldn't be sulking in a corner or tearing my hair out if they do either, because I honestly think it would benefit us in the medium to long term.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:12 am

JANCKER wrote:To put differently, if you had to pick winning one of BuLi and CL? What would you pick? I'd pick the CL every time.
CL is what makes Bayern different from other German teams. If Bayern didn't have those CL trophies, the significance of BuLi titles would weight way less... like the French league titles perhaps.

I'd pick CL even if it meant getting relegated from the Bundesliga. There is something so special about winning the CL, whereas the league is something we are expected to do, every season since I can remember.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby Roonzil » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:27 am

MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:To put differently, if you had to pick winning one of BuLi and CL? What would you pick? I'd pick the CL every time.
CL is what makes Bayern different from other German teams. If Bayern didn't have those CL trophies, the significance of BuLi titles would weight way less... like the French league titles perhaps.

I'd pick CL even if it meant getting relegated from the Bundesliga. There is something so special about winning the CL, whereas the league is something we are expected to do, every season since I can remember.


Oh bro, you are underestimating the pain of relegation...and the struggle it brings in the year after.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:03 am

Those who are saying a CL without a league is bad are wrong. I mean, sure others might think that. I do so about Chelsea. I do about Real Madrid last season. I don't about them in 2013/14. But trust me, if it were us, none of us would care. You underestimate the joy and rarity of a CL victory.

The Bundesliga is being underrated by some though. It's important that we win it as it's the one competition that goes to the most consistent rather than the luckiest. To me a league win and a good run in the other cups is enough to declare it a good season. If we were to win just the CL, it would be a very happy but not necessarily a good season.

If one were to tell me the two are exclusive and I'm guaranteed one this season, I'd pick the CL in a heartbeat. But they're not, and attempts to make them so (like taking it easier in the Bundesliga to focus on the CL) will backfire.


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