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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby ottackon » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:05 pm

MUTU wrote:This is beside the point. If only one or two teams are in with a chance of winning the league the way it is, it's because they are the best teams in the league and they deserve to win.
The whole idea of a league is in fact that: trying to award the champion title to the most deserving club.
Otherwise, if they're not going to be awarding the best club they might as well play all matches and then choose the winner in a lottery so that everyone has a chance of winning.

Your explanation is simplistic.
But hey, if you don't see that the outrageous domination of Bayern on the Bundesliga is a major issue that can hurt us long-term, we'll go around in circles.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:14 pm

ottackon wrote:But hey, if you don't see that the outrageous domination of Bayern on the Bundesliga is a major issue that can hurt us long-term, we'll go around in circles.

That's a cycle. If it hurts us down the line, we will become weaker and the Bundesliga more competitive automatically without any need for a format change.

I have always been in favour of a competitive Bundesliga, but not at the detriment of the fun I have watching Bayern games.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:32 pm

Being American I wouldn't mind the playoff system but it seems it's something that's never resonated with Europeans....
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby sherpthederp » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:42 pm

Firefox1234 wrote:Being American I wouldn't mind the playoff system but it seems it's something that's never resonated with Europeans....

Eh, I can't stand that the MLS is playoff based. We just HAD to be different than the rest of the world. I don't want to see the Bundesliga head down that road. And with Leipzig up we will have plenty of competition, I just hope that Dortmund manages to keep their young talent for a good long while.
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Re: 2. Bundesliga

Postby gembusbro212 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:39 am

Bundesliga Full Reviews Match-1 season 2016/2017

Is this the year that Bayern Munich’s dominance is tested by Tuchel’s Borussia Dortmund? It has been a merry go round transfer window so far in Germany. Ancelotti’s first season in charge of the Bavarian giants and the capture of Hummels from Dortmund will be challenged by BVB’s rebuilding program under Tuchel. As well as Hummels, Mkhitaryan has also left for Jose’s Manchester United, and Gundogan for Mourinho’s rivals Manchester City. Coming in we have Schurrle into Dortmund from Wolfsburg and Götze arriving from Bayern. Tuchel has his first season under the belt following Klopp’s departure, and I have always rated him as a manager so he could take Dortmund onto great things.

It makes for a fascinating match up and, at 1/6, Bayern are completely unbackable. Dortmund at 6/1 have some trading appeal and if Tuchel gets the team gelling quickly, they could well run the Munich side close.

A team I expect to close the gap on both of them is Monchengladbach. They have slowly improved over the last 2 years. They have lost Xhaka to Arsenal, and not just saying it because it is Arsenal, but I am not sure he is a huge loss. Andre Schubert has changed the philosophy and built a more solid balanced side than the counter attacking team under Favre. They achieved 4th and Champions League football last season despite a 5 match losing streak along the way. Their home form was way better than their away form and if Schubert has got his balance right, they will challenge Leverkusen for the 3rd spot behind the big two. I was hoping for a bigger price to get onto the top 4 after losing Xhaka so I cannot have a bet at 5/4 for the Top 4. 100/1 for the title may well trade but is not for me as money will be scarce, so I will watch Gladbach with interest this season.

The Bundesliga is trialing video replays this season. Officials will watch 3 games a week and make notes for research purposes. If it goes well we could see Bundesliga leading the way in long awaited video replays. I have never understood the opposition to it, surely everyone just wants to see the correct result in each game?

At the bottom Darmstadt have lost their manager to Augsburg and that has moved them to odds on to go down so it looks difficult to see them stay up. Ingolstadt stayed up last season but were poor come the end. If they don’t get off to a fast start I expect them to join Darmstadt down the trapdoor.

The third team I fancy to struggle are Werder Bremen. Only two points clear of safety last season they take on Bayern, Monchengladbach, Wolfsburg and Leverkusen in 4 of their first 8 games and also have, what will surely be, tough games against Mainz and Augsburg. That start, if it goes wrong, will see them down the bottom and momentum is then tough to generate to get out of it. At 8/1 they offer some appeal.

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby ottackon » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:13 pm

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby JANCKER » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:15 pm

Super Mario crush the bees. :P
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby JANCKER » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:11 pm

The warrior scores for the bees.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby ottackon » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:19 pm

Very impressive display from Dortmund.
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:22 pm

Yeap. And the football they play is fantastic. Can we have Tuchel after Carlo leaves? :D

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:24 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:Yeap. And the football they play is fantastic. Can we have Tuchel after Carlo leaves? :D

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I wanted him when Pep was hinting that he might leave.

Forget the title for this year... BVB are as hot as hell.

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:27 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:Yeap. And the football they play is fantastic. Can we have Tuchel after Carlo leaves? :D

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I wanted him when Pep was hinting that he might leave.

Forget the title for this year... BVB are as hot as hell.

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Me too. Shame Guardiola didn't decide to leave in 2015. I'm not conceding the league though, it will be tight, but I think we will win.

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby JANCKER » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:38 pm

Did Gomez just miss a golden chance?
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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:42 pm

For a change! I am taking the opportunity since MUTU is drunk on wine:lol:

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Re: 2016/2017 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby ottackon » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:49 pm

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