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Why would I believe in them? It´s obvious they high goals this season. If they say that they have good enough squad for their goals its obvious that they don´t have high goals.

I am not a fan of Bayern that aims to end third in the Bundesliga and sets as a goal to reach the knockout stage of Champions League. C'mon, the club has enough money to find a good creative midfielder that could make a difference. Look at the substitutes Ottl, Lell, Santa Cruz - which one could make an impact if brought in ? i'm affraid noone, and Karimi in the first squad ? I think there is definitely a need of at least one good creative midfielder.

KICK MAGATH OUT OF MUNICH. but its not all of his fault ...the board is to blaim also..anyway we continue like this then i will stop being interesting until the board realizes whats happening.
We cant even beat Dortmund????? and we will go against Werder and Madrid...
daaammn we know to talk a lot. I see no actions though.

I guess it's the teacher in me but I do believe that the team has high goals. They believe in themselves and they believe that the have the right "ingredients" to realize their goals, and that's great. They just need to put the ingredients together, whether that means removing or adding some, and the goal will be realized.

Also, this team has had a lot of distractions this year and it's obvious those distractions are taking a toll. There was the Pizarro situation (probably will continue), Deisler's retirement, and the biggest one of them all.....Hargreaves' situation. Here's a player who's turning his back on them and this has to be on their minds when they train.

I may not like what either the board or Magath does but there's nothing I can do about that. I don't want to be a fair weather fan, I'm a fan for all seasons.

I just want to see them fail. I don´t know...I´m iritated by Bayern now....seriously thinking about stop supporting them ...I´ve been a fan since 99 but this is just crap.

You can't stop supporting them after they lose a match!
I do worry about what goes on behind the scenes though. As fans, we don't get the full story, so the things with Deisler and Hargreaves - we dont know what impact they have on the team. I think it's getting quite late to sign someone now...I hope Bayern have something up their sleeves.

It´s not one match, it´s the whole season, it´s Magath, it´s the board.

Remember, there are still 16 games left in the season and anything can happen between now and the last game. Things might get worse (let's hope not) or things might get better (let's hope on that). At this moment, we are in third place and 6 points back from the leaders and we still have to play them. So, we still have a chance to turn things around.

Also, us fans can complain all we want but there really is nothing we can do about it. Bayern has to do it. I'm sure they'll get it together but if it doesn't happen this season then that's fine. All great teams have down years and this could be Bayern's turn.

in my eyes Bayern have been dissapointing for the last couple of years. I mean bundesliga is not that hard to win if you´re the richest club in the country. What about CL? When were they last time in semi-finals?

Paddy wrote:in my eyes Bayern have been dissapointing for the last couple of years. I mean bundesliga is not that hard to win if you´re the richest club in the country. What about CL? When were they last time in semi-finals?

We're getting way off topic here so this will be my last comment. If saying the past few years is a disappointment, even though they won back to back titles, is surprising to me. Yes, they haven't won the CL but they still have succeeded in many ways. Winning isn't everything, and if you feel that you can no longer watch them because they are not winning everything then go ahead.

tracylynn wrote:

Paddy wrote:in my eyes Bayern have been dissapointing for the last couple of years. I mean bundesliga is not that hard to win if you´re the richest club in the country. What about CL? When were they last time in semi-finals?

We're getting way off topic here so this will be my last comment. If saying the past few years is a disappointment, even though they won back to back titles, is surprising to me. Yes, they haven't won the CL but they still have succeeded in many ways. Winning isn't everything, and if you feel that you can no longer watch them because they are not winning everything then go ahead.

Like I said Bundesliga isn´t that hard to win, considering what teams play in it. I think true quiality of Bayern can only be seen in CL.

The true Bayern quality was back in 1974,1975,1976 (obviously) ,1998, 2001 and when we elminated Arsenal were eliminated by Chelsea. That was Bayern. Too bad we are going down the hill instead of up. Although we DO have great potential as a team but lack of good managing, If it was either Mourinho (heh I know, over exagerating) or Hitzfeld we could be Champions League finalists.

SNAKE

Again a lost match. C'mon Bayern can't beat Bochum at home when they are desperate after points?
I am really disapointed I hope the board realizes the mistakes they've done with this team "transformation". Strikers did not have any support from the midfield, where as usual nobody can not create anything. But the thing that irritates me the most is that they did nothing to change that in this transfer window. By the way, i think Bremen deserves the title this year, for what they are doing, for their style of playing, for their transfer policy and attitude.