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Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:19 am |
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Schweini_rules
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| i agree with the snake here . |
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:49 am |
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MUTU
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| SNAKE wrote: | Again, Yes Klinsmann was baised that he wanted german players that were part of an english team: Lehmann (Arsenal) , Huth (was Chelsea now Middlesborough), he wanted Volz (Fulham), Hitzlsperger (was Aston Villa), Ballack (Chelsea) (he is an exception  ) and he also once wanted a player named Bullard who played for Wigan he has german grandparents or something, |
If he wanted them, he'd have taken Volz and Bullard. The Bullard case was the other way round... it was he who wanted to play for Germany, unless I got mixed up. Volz... never heard of the guy :S
| SNAKE wrote: | | This shows that Klinsmann preffered english baised germans And not calling up real players like Hinkel, Gomez, Kuranyi and Worns. |
I don't understand why we are criticizing Klinsmann at all. Anyone would agree that what he did was exceptional. He turned a group of no-hopers into a team that gave the world champions a run for their money.
| SNAKE wrote: | | Any proof of this? There was also the rumor that the best ever german goalkeeper Sepp Maier resigned or was fired because he was preffering Kahn |
Maier is much more of a friend to Kahn than Koepke a friend to Lehmann. Maier is in the Bayern management, of course he was biased towards Kahn!
| SNAKE wrote: | | Like Hoeness said after the "Number 1" choice, "It was no surprise to Lehmann". |
Self confidence is one of the traits of honorable Germans 
| SNAKE wrote: | | Yes the worst defender who ever pulled on the German shirt or anyone's shirt for that matter. |
 he was improving with every game. He was rock solid... he was the best player in the 4-1 loss to Italy before the World Cup, and he scored the consolation goal. In my opinion we missed him at the World Cup.
| SNAKE wrote: | | An Ok player???? Sorry i dont mean to be rude but you should wear glasses, I really dont even consider him a player, he is just like Heskey and Gattuso, a damn savage who is only good enough to hurt other players. |
Please calm down. It is true that he's not a very elegant player, but a defender need not be so. Few tall players are anyway. Van Buyten isn't elegant, and neither is Jan Koller. I think there's more to come from him, and you will live to mince your words, just like when you used to pick on Schweinsteiger a couple of years back
| SNAKE wrote: | | Sure he did every coach has his reasons, but his "reasons" were unjistified and full of errors, in fact that leaving Loew doin the german player searching is undoubtly wrong and unprofessional. Besides in my personal opinion Voller(in 2002) was the better coach at both selecting players and managing. |
Let's not forget the easy route to the final that Germany had in 2002. Their performances in 2006 were far, far better. Probably you'd have to go very far back to find another World Cup finalist as bad as Germany's 2002 team.
| SNAKE wrote: | | Sure respect the "person" who attacked his goalkeeper rival by stating that he is "better" than him and he shouldnt be the number 1 of Germany because of his love affair AND STILL Kahn gives his backing during the World Cup (namely against Argentina), shows that Kahn was the better person and with his presence in the 3rd place playoff showed that Kahn was the better keeper aswell. |
They both attacked each other really. You can't just blame it on one of them. They both acted like kids.
| SNAKE wrote: | | Dont get me wrong, I dont dislike players who play outside Germany, like when Bierhoff was in Italy i supported him all the way(Yes even with Milan), even when Matthaus,Klinsmann and Brehme were with Inter in the 90s, but I preffer selecting from their own nation 1st, then select a possible player who plays outside. |
In my opinion, you choose the best players. Why would you choose an inferior player just because he plays in Germany? If the best players are playing outside, then so be it. Brazilian coaches don't seem to have a problem with this philosophy. |
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:22 pm |
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tracylynn
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I'm not even going to repost Snake's post but I do want to make a few comments. One being that there was a "rumor" about Maier being fired or resigned. Do you believe every thing you read or hear? Rumors are not facts, they are just rumors and nothing more. In order to prove a point one needs hard, cold facts and that's not it.
 I need glasses? Why? Because I don't judge players the same way that you do? Huth is not a moron and he's neither a bad nor great player, but for anyone to go on the pitch and play day in and day out has to be decent. I respect him for what he does. It's something called RESPECT even to the individuals you may or may not like. BTW...One should not judge someone by what they see on TV or from what they hear because that's just wrong.
IMO, you're more upset about Kahn not being chosen as the starting goalie than Kahn is. It's time to let it go and get over it. No offense but I think the comments about Huth and Lehmann actually show disrespect more to Kahn than to them. I truely believe that when individuals call others names or show disrespect to an opponent of a team or athlete of their favorite team/player, that's being disrespectful to their favorite because I'm sure the idolized shows more respect than that.
I'm done talking about this because it really isn't that important of an issue. What was done was done. Everyone needs to accept it and move on. That's the one thing with sports that I don't think many folks like or accept. Coaches are going to make decisions that may or may not be liked, and as an athlete or fan, one needs expect it and accept it without complaints. If one can't then they have a problem. |
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:44 pm |
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MUTU
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