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| 3) Unsure |
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| 4) Let's wait until the end of the season to decide. |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:57 am |
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tracylynn I post all the time
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| Post subject: Do you think Magath should be fired? |
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I know this has come up on a lot of boards lately, but do you think Magath should be fired?
I'm a little undecided on this but I would like to hear your thoughts on this. |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:06 am |
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podolski4life I'm a chatterbox!
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| I’ll give Magath the benefit of the doubt… for now. I’m hoping he’ll pull off something like Stuttgart’s coach did. He was reckoned to be the first coach in the Bundesliga to be fired this season, but obviously he got his team going. Look where Stuttgart is now, from 15th place to 2nd place. If Magath can get motivated and get his team to get motivated like that, then we can start winning convincingly again. Something between him and the players have to click. |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:09 am |
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dracus I'm a chatterbox!
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How can you be unsure.Sack him and get klinsi,lippi or a mourinho.
What bayern reqires the most is a world class manager. |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:12 pm |
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Mirage I'm a chatterbox!
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| I've put unsure for now. I guess - it's still 'early' and we should allow him the benefit of the doubt for now, but if this form continues people are going to look for someone to blame. |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:23 pm |
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fanOfBayern Moderator
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I am sure....LOL...
Bayern should be more aggressive....I hate Magath's defence minded game. |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:08 pm |
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tracylynn I post all the time
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I'm unsure because you can't blame him for everything that is going on with the club though he is a part of the problem. Add the fact that they are still in the German Cup, for how much longer I do not know, and they did qualify for the second round of the Champions League. Also under Magath Bayern did win the titles back to back which is hard. So, I guess there is some loyality there.
With that being said, if things don't get better and they get knocked out of the tournaments early then I say get rid of him. It's so obvious that the players have no desire and he's not making them change their attitude. In fact, they are following his example and that's not good. |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:41 pm |
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bogdan I'm a chatterbox!
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magath is pissing me off with his tactics and interviews lately
he did a good job untill now but if he doesnt do something quickly(repair players morale, make them playing with passion,...) he should think seriously to retire from team |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:18 pm |
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kevh26 I'm a chatterbox!
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magath is a good manager, let's not forget he brought us the league and cup double back to back...
it's not his fault the board have no ambition... I honestly think that given two or three more years we'll have a fantastic, young side that can mature into a dominant force in germany and a good team in europe! |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:42 pm |
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dracus I'm a chatterbox!
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| kevh26 wrote: | magath is a good manager, let's not forget he brought us the league and cup double back to back...
it's not his fault the board have no ambition... I honestly think that given two or three more years we'll have a fantastic, young side that can mature into a dominant force in germany and a good team in europe! |
It looks like you voted for no
Magath got the squad which otzar had built.He had the service of world class payers who cluld lead the team to cl victory but we got knocked in the 2nd round instead.He doesnt know what should be the quality of a real bayern team and buys amateurs |
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:23 pm |
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kevh26 I'm a chatterbox!
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the squad hitzfeld left was in fact ageing... think of the back four... only sagnol and Lucio were at peak form...
the attack too was on the decline, elber, sergio, janker had all left, zickler was cracking on in years,
midfield wise, ballack and ze roberto were the only one's to be truly counted on, players like hargreaves, demichelis, schweinsteiger, lahm, have come on leaps and bounds since magath joined.
and he has made some key signings, poldi, van buyten, ismael, van bommel etc
all signs point to him developing a new wave of players about the same age... mostly german, who can develop into future stars! |
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:04 am |
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dracus I'm a chatterbox!
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| kevh26 wrote: | the squad hitzfeld left was in fact ageing... think of the back four... only sagnol and Lucio were at peak form...
the attack too was on the decline, elber, sergio, janker had all left, zickler was cracking on in years,
midfield wise, ballack and ze roberto were the only one's to be truly counted on, players like hargreaves, demichelis, schweinsteiger, lahm, have come on leaps and bounds since magath joined.
and he has made some key signings, poldi, van buyten, ismael, van bommel etc
all signs point to him developing a new wave of players about the same age... mostly german, who can develop into future stars! |
Who cares about the future when the club is struggling in the present.
I know the signings were good but what if
Cannavoro or nesta or thuram instead of isamel.
Viera or someone of his class could have joined the club then which squad would have been better
He didnt take any benefit of the juve's relegation even if he hadnt had any money.They were out there very cheap indeed. |
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:02 pm |
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kevh26 I'm a chatterbox!
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| dracus wrote: | Who cares about the future when the club is struggling in the present.
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everyone... in the present, the bundesliga isn't a high profile league, low tv revenue makes it harder for clubs to shell out lots of money (look what happened to dortmund when they tried it, they went broke) combined with taxes in germany making wages that would attract the likes of cannavaro, harder to afford
... but given the quality of young talent in the bundesliga, and continuous development of youth squads, the quality can be raised such that when the money does come in, the big names will want to come to the bundesliga, and bayern will be a force to be reckoned with! |
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:32 pm |
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fanOfBayern Moderator
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| kevh26 wrote: | | dracus wrote: | Who cares about the future when the club is struggling in the present.
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everyone... in the present, the bundesliga isn't a high profile league, low tv revenue makes it harder for clubs to shell out lots of money (look what happened to dortmund when they tried it, they went broke) combined with taxes in germany making wages that would attract the likes of cannavaro, harder to afford
... but given the quality of young talent in the bundesliga, and continuous development of youth squads, the quality can be raised such that when the money does come in, the big names will want to come to the bundesliga, and bayern will be a force to be reckoned with! |
well said. |
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:40 pm |
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dracus I'm a chatterbox!
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| fanOfBayern wrote: | | kevh26 wrote: | | dracus wrote: | Who cares about the future when the club is struggling in the present.
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everyone... in the present, the bundesliga isn't a high profile league, low tv revenue makes it harder for clubs to shell out lots of money (look what happened to dortmund when they tried it, they went broke) combined with taxes in germany making wages that would attract the likes of cannavaro, harder to afford
... but given the quality of young talent in the bundesliga, and continuous development of youth squads, the quality can be raised such that when the money does come in, the big names will want to come to the bundesliga, and bayern will be a force to be reckoned with! |
well said. |
Let's hope so  |
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:41 pm |
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kevh26 I'm a chatterbox!
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| thanks, incidentally speaking... has anyone heard of a youngster called felsenberg? a lot of my friends have been mentioning him recently, but I can't find anything out about him (supposedly a young german midfielder) |
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