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Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:53 pm
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With Ottmar Hitzfeld set to leave the German giants in June, Marcelo Lippi is very much a contender to take over at the Allianz-Arena...
Italian Press: Lippi To Take Over At Bayern Munich?

La Stampa reports that Marcelo Lippi is being heavily linked with the soon-to-be-vacant Bayern Munich post.

With the Germna outfit set to return to Champions League football next season, and with Ottmar Hitzfeld all but guaranteed to leave in June, the door is open for a new top-level appointment, and World Cup-winner Lippi could be the man.

Lippi is thought to hold the interest of the likes of club chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, who admires the former Juventus and Italy boss' cautious but effective approach to the game. Indeed, both also share a history of being involved at Internazionale.

Furthermore, Bayern have experience of Italian managers as they formerly operated under Giovanni Trapattoni, and of Italian players with Luca Toni currently leading the line.

However, before making a formal approach, the club must seek a way around the language barrier. Lippi has previously expressed his reluctance to coach in a country in which he does not know the language, such as England or Germany.

But with the major Italian clubs currently looking unlikely to sack their bosses, and Roberto Donadoni being in situ with the Azzurri until at least July, this could tempt Lippi all the same.

Steve Michaels, Goal.com
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:29 pm
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" cautious but effective" = boring...

hopefully it will be a more attacking oriented coach....someone like Schaaf...
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:32 pm
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Well yeah the play would be boring but results would come. He is proven at the highest level while the likes of Schaaf are not.
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:56 pm
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heck, if I agree to that I would loose my right to criticize Italian football...and I am not willing to do that! Very Happy

Honestly, I really prefer to be fan of a team that its admired by having guts and playing good attacking football and not necessarily winning, than being a fan of a team that wins but everyone else hates because of playing an ultra-defensive game, e.g. Italy in the WC...Milan in the last CL final...
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:31 am
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heck, if I agree to that I would loose my right to criticize Italian football...and I am not willing to do that! Very Happy

Honestly, I really prefer to be fan of a team that its admired by having guts and playing good attacking football and not necessarily winning, than being a fan of a team that wins but everyone else hates because of playing an ultra-defensive game, e.g. Italy in the WC...Milan in the last CL final...


Everyone hates Germans more than Italians. And Bayern were never famous for pretty football.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:49 am
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"Everyone hates Germans more than Italians." In general terms yes. Now in terms of football, I don't know...I got a totally different impression during the WC, almost everyone I spoke to who was not a German or Italian fan hated the fact that Italy won because they thought it was a victory for defensive football (and I don't think they had anything personal against Italians, like I don't)...

"And Bayern were never famous for pretty football". I could not agree more, we even had Trappatoni, the master of catenaccio, as our coach...but wasn't the first half of this season (especially the first quarter) the most exciting for Bayern fans when they played great, beautiful football????... thats what I want....
 
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First of all, Lippi is not coming to Bayern. He does not speak German and I do believe that Uli and company want a coach who can speak German.

Secondly, you either want a team that wins or you want a team that plays beautiful football. The way it's going nowadays a team is either gonna be one of them but not both. Also, what some might considered boring others might find entertaining. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

Thirdly, I wouldn't mind seeing Lippi at Bayern. I don't care if he is Italian or that he want to play defensively. He can get the win. I gotta admit that he's not my first choice but he wouldn't be all that bad either.

Fourth, I, too, think Germans are more hated or at least easy to hate. If people get upset they always have to say some Nazi crap. Perhaps Germans and Italians are tied because of fans being immature.

Finally, welcome back, Paddy!! Very Happy
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:35 am
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Arsenal play beautiful footbal and win. Wink

It won't be easy finding a replacement if you look at what Calle said about Hitzfelt after the Bolton game. No good coach wants to be thrown under the bus like that.

It should be a coach that can shoulder the pressure at Bayern and deliver the results, otherwise, beatuiful attacking football is played in England and Spain.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:05 am
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if it was my choice, i would go for the Barca manager Frank Rijkaard.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:28 am
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"if it was my choice, i would go for the Barca manager Frank Rijkaard."

Never liked him after he spat on Rudi Voeller thrice! in 1990 WC...

Van Basten is apparently being linked to Bayern and he is someone who can speak good german, but I think he has to prove himself yet. Holland is not playing so great under him in spite of all the talent they got. Also, I'm sure Van Bommel would hate that!
 
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elcalifornio wrote:
beatuiful attacking football is played in England and Spain.


Hmmm? Let me think about this... England and Spain play beautiful football because of the attacking style while the rest do not. Personally, no offense to any fans of the EPL, but I don't like the EPL. I find it very boring. Is it beautiful football? Not in my eyes. As for Spain, well, La Liga is not bad. Better than the EPL anyday. I tend to like the Bundesliga and Serie A. Actually, I'm just starting to get into the Serie A, but I find that I am more entertain watching those leagues compare to the EPL and even La Liga, though La Liga is not bad.

As for the next coach candidates....Rijkaard...no way. Van Basten...no and if Bayern picked him because he can speak German then they are fools.
 
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The Bundesliga is far more physical, and slower than either the Epl or La Liga. This translates into less skill, more endurance, and fouls. I'm not saying that the BL and Serie A are void of good and even beautiful football at times, but when Bayern started killing teams 4&5 nill, Bunesliga teams sarted chopping players down and putting 11 behind the ball. Why? They lack the speed and skill to compete; they don't have players and the football suffers, which is why a technical Mauirnhio or Lippi aproach might work a little better. Serie A right now is a better league than the BL but look how bummed people were about their defensive World Cup victory. Its not as beautifull to watch.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:27 am
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I agree with you, elcalifornio, in almost everything you said. However, IMO only Man U and Arsenal play really attractive football in EPL. Chelsea, for example, is a more physical team nowadays just as most of the remaining teams in EPL.

Regarding a coach for Bayern...KLINSMANN!!!!!!! (it wont happen though)....
 
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elcalifornio wrote:
The Bundesliga is far more physical, and slower than either the Epl or La Liga. This translates into less skill, more endurance, and fouls. I'm not saying that the BL and Serie A are void of good and even beautiful football at times, but when Bayern started killing teams 4&5 nill, Bunesliga teams sarted chopping players down and putting 11 behind the ball. Why? They lack the speed and skill to compete; they don't have players and the football suffers, which is why a technical Mauirnhio or Lippi aproach might work a little better. Serie A right now is a better league than the BL but look how bummed people were about their defensive World Cup victory. Its not as beautifull to watch.


They only people bummed about Italy's WC victory are the folks who didn't want Italy to win. It might not have been the way that some folks liked but Italy went out and did what they had to do. Plain and simple. I can not find fault in that because it's done in many sports. Teams do what they need to do to win. If some don't like it then they have a problem. Personally, I was hoping for Germany to win but it didn't happen but I have no problem with Italy winning it. Looking back on it now, it seemd kinda silly to be upset over a team winning when they did what they felt was the best way to win it.

Personally, it's all a matter of opinion. I liek teh physical side of the Bundesliga but that is just me. Of course, I like other things too. In whole it's the whole shebang. If I want to sleep through a football game then I'll turn the TV on and watch the EPL. If I was entertain by the EPL then I would be a fan of the teams but I'm not. You're definition of attractive football is going to be different than mine. But, this is off-topic and should not be done here.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:41 am
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tracylynn wrote:
First of all, Lippi is not coming to Bayern. He does not speak German and I do believe that Uli and company want a coach who can speak German.

Secondly, you either want a team that wins or you want a team that plays beautiful football. The way it's going nowadays a team is either gonna be one of them but not both. Also, what some might considered boring others might find entertaining. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

Thirdly, I wouldn't mind seeing Lippi at Bayern. I don't care if he is Italian or that he want to play defensively. He can get the win. I gotta admit that he's not my first choice but he wouldn't be all that bad either.

Fourth, I, too, think Germans are more hated or at least easy to hate. If people get upset they always have to say some Nazi crap. Perhaps Germans and Italians are tied because of fans being immature.

Finally, welcome back, Paddy!! Very Happy


You can play beautiful football and still win games, look at Man utd, Barcelona, Arsenal and Real years ago.

And it would be a stupid thing to just ignore coaches who donīt speak German because it leaves out many great coaches.

And...thanks Tracy. Wink
 
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