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| Should Lehmann be dropped from Germany #1 spot, just like Kahn was? |
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| No Lehmann still should be Germany's #1 |
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Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:53 am |
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SNAKE Yeah, now I'm talking!
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| MUTU wrote: | I don't really like Hildebrand. I'd rather that Loew plays Neuer, Adler, Wiese, Rensing or Enke in place of Hildebrand. He has never impressed playing for Germany.
SNAKE, this is getting boring. Calm down and act your age. This thread is close to being locked thanks to you. |
Just because you dont like him, doesnt mean hes not better than the current "#1" Well Thank God you're not Loew than, Hildebrand is the better keeper after Kahn, Neuer doesnt have experience, Adler is good for 3rd choice keeper, Rensing will be Germany's number 2 and Enke should move to a better club before getting called up and there's always Wiese and Weidenfeller.
Mutu, you are/were always boring. Im calm and quit acting like a kid with power just because you're an admin. Instead of locking this thread why dont you delete some of the unused members, you know the ones who joined the forum and never even posted once that should test your "Forum God" abilty......and also this thread is about an anti-Lehmann campaign, basicly everything he does wrong shall we posted here.(blunders,being arrogant on the press, attacking teammates etc). If you want to lock it then go ahead like I give a hell about it.
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Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:31 pm |
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Miss Dangerous...!! I'm a chatterbox!
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Rensing should be #1  |
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Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:36 pm |
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andresdonado15 Woah, this feels cool!
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i think rensing is more consistent, and have more security with balls than the likes of Neuer, Adler, and the same hildebrand.
I respect all the likes and dislikes, but i dont like too much timo, i think he is lack of regularity....and other things... |
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Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:12 pm |
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tracylynn I post all the time
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 1365 Location: Springfield, USA
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| Post subject: Lehmann not in starting line-up. |
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Lehmann out in the cold as Wenger sticks with Almunia
Fri 19 Oct,
LONDON (AFP) - Arsene Wenger admits Jens Lehmann is no longer Arsenal's first choice goalkeeper after selecting Manuel Almunia for Saturday's match against Bolton.
Although Lehmann suffered a minor injury in training on Friday, he was fit enough to play for the Gunners for the first time since August 19.
But Wenger had already decided to keep faith with Almunia as the Premier League leaders try to extend their 10-match winning run.
The Gunners manager believes that is the right decision because he wants to reward the players that helped establish that impressive form.
Lehmann has been out of favour since making errors against Fulham and Blackburn earlier this season.
Wenger could have named the Germany star, who played for his country against Republic of Ireland last weekend, as a substitute but he opted to have Lukasz Fabianski on the bench instead.
"Almunia will play and I have decided to stick with the same team and keep the continuity going," Wenger said. "In my opinion we have three world class keepers and only one of them can play. I have got 25 players in the squad and they all expect to play."
"The player (Lehmann) is disappointed but there is a lot of competition for places. He is an intelligent guy and knows what he has to do.
"He can go on the bench. But for tomorrow I have decided to leave him out completely.
"Jens is a world class keeper but I had to make the choice for the continuity of the side."
With Arsenal enjoying a superb start to the season, Wenger is unlikely to experience the sort of criticism currently being directed at England coach Steve McClaren.
Many England fans would be delighted to see Wenger replace McClaren but the Frenchman was quick to rule himself out of the running.
He said: "I am not a candidate. I can only repeat that. Anyway it would be disrespectful to be a candidate to replace a guy who is in the job and does a good job."
He believes the English Football Association should be strong enough to resist calls to sack McClaren because the side have been progressing under his leadership.
"They were unfortunate to lose the game," he said. "They have a few problems, but only minor problems in the national team. Overall in the recent games they were convincing.
"The timing to change the manager now would be very bad. It is difficult because the pressure from the media is very strong. That is why the FA needs to be very strong."
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This should make someone very happy. Anyways, I have to agree with Wenger about keeping the uniformity going. I guess Wenger saw what happened with the US Women's team during the WC. Why fix a system that is not broke? Also, I find it very interesting that Wenger said that he (Lehmann) knows what to do. That tells me that there is something else going on that we do not know about. Something going on behind close doors that only those two know about.
I have chated with some Gunner fans and some want Lehmann back in the starting line-up because they don't feel comfortable with Alumnia, while others want to stick with Almunia. I'm not all that familar with Almunia but I am familar with Lehmann. I neither like nor hate the man. I am neutral on him but if he wants to play then he probably needs to start looking for another gig. I heard Man. City was interested in him. |
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:56 pm |
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tracylynn I post all the time
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 1365 Location: Springfield, USA
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Germany worried about keeper problems
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BERLIN (AP) - Jens Lehmann could break an old tradition for Germany and be in goal at the European Championship - the first in the soccer power's history to be a reserve player on his club team.
Influential Bayern Munich manager Uli Hoeness, at least, pleaded for just that solution Sunday to Germany's new goalkeeper problem. Both Lehmann at Arsenal and backup Timo Hildebrand at Valencia are reserves.
"Lehmann has to, in any case, play at the European Championship, even if he doesn't play again for Arsenal," Hoeness said. "He is a super goalie."
Germany, which has won both the European Championship and World Cup three times, has always been able to count on a strong goalkeeper at major tournaments.
Germany coach Joachim Loew is clearly concerned about playing a rusty goalkeeper. He expects Lehmann to wrestle back the starting job back from Manuel Almunia by December, or the two will have to discuss the situation, Loew said.
Hoeness called it a mistake to question Lehmann's starting role.
"We would be crazy to start a discussion about whether he should play," Hoeness said. "It's completely inappropriate."
Both Lehmann and Hildebrand are confident the problem will disappear as they win back their jobs.
The 37-year-old Lehmann, slowed by injuries, has to push out Almunia although Arsenal is unbeaten and in first place in the English Premier League. The German recently has been reduced to a spectator in the stands at Arsenal games as Poland goalkeeper Lukasz Fabianski sat on the bench.
"I am an Arsenal player and I will get my chance to play again - that is just a matter of time," said Lehmann, who last played Aug. 19 against Blackburn.
Lehmann is prized by the Germans because of his ability to rush out of his goal to challenge players. With Germany so attack-minded, the goalkeeper often charges well outside his goal to yank away a through pass as his teammates are caught moving forward.
Hildebrand was on the bench Saturday as Santiago Canizares played in Valencia's 4-2 win after the German started recent games for the Spanish club.
The German still expects to beat out the local hero in his first year with the team after helping VfB Stuttgart win the Bundesliga title last season.
"I don't see any reason why I shouldn't play again in Valencia," Hildebrand said.
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Interesting to see what Uli had to say about Lehmann. |
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:33 pm |
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FC Bajern I'm a chatterbox!
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| Post subject: Lehmann To Wenger: No More Humiliation |
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Arsenal goalkeeper Jens Lehmann has hit out at Arsene Wenger, and declared that he does not want to be humiliated any more.
The Germany number one has dropped down Arsene Wenger's pecking order, and a telling blow was landed over the weekend, when he failed to even make the bench.
Manuel Almunia started, Lukasz Fabianski was the reserve, while Lehmann was left out of the squad.
The 37-year-old is clearly not impressed, and has warned against the same continuing much longer.
"It's possible that some day I'll feel like talking about the whole issue," Lehmann told German pay-TV broadcaster Premiere.
"But at the moment I'm just swallowing it all as part of the humiliation. That's something one has to take in.
"But I think, and this is aimed at my dear manager, one shouldn't humiliate players for too long.
"I'm an Arsenal player and I won't just fade away quietly."
He also scoffed at Wenger's claims that Arsenal had three world class goalkeepers, in what is unlikely to please the dressing room.
"Wenger spoke of three world class goalkeepers," Lehmann said. "One of them must be me. The other two have proved their class by winning titles? If I think about that, I can't recall any."
"I'm convinced that I'll be playing again," he continued. "Almunia has not yet showed that he can win matches for us.
"I've experienced this situation before and know what the others are expecting from the goalkeeper. I can't imagine he'll be able to handle that."
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:28 pm |
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MUTU Site Admin
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It's got to a situation where it's never going to be a win-win situation for Wenger and Lehmann.
If Wenger doesn't play Lehmann because of his high demands and because of disrupting team sprit, Lehmann loses.
If Wenger plays Lehmann, then he would seem like he succumbed to his 'threats' and would lose all sense of authority over him, so Wenger loses.
I think Lehmann is an excellent goalkeeper and he fully deserves his first team place, but his character is what is keeping him back. If this continues much longer, Lehmann will try to find a new team but not many teams will want to have him in their team except a team desperate for a goalkeeper, and these desperate teams generally don't afford to pay the high wages he will demand anyway. |
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:31 pm |
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tracylynn I post all the time
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| This situation has gotten bad. I know players like to talk and they all want to play but Lehmann is now starting to push everyone's buttons. Then again, he wouldn't be the first keeper to do that. Anyway, I don't think he's a bad keeper at all but it seems like everytime you go to a website there's always a report on something that he said. At first, a lot of fans were understanding about how he felt. But now, a lot of them are getting tired of it. For many Arsenal fans, they're afraid that he's going to disrupt the bond that the team currently has. I think Lehmann needs to realize that he is now shooting himself in the foot. Calling out the coach could very well sealed his fate with the team. |
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